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Transcript of interviews with Mrs. Laura Smalley, former slave

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AUDIO CLIP ONE

Mrs. Laura Smalley: They tend to all the children. Tend to the children. Just like, you know, you bring a

whole lot of children, you know, and put them down, you know, at one house. Well, there somebody

have to look over them, you know and tend to them, that way. Just a house full of them children.

And if one act bad, you know, they'd whup him. They'd whup him too, the old woman. And if the old

woman didn't tend to the children, they'd whup, they'd whup her too.

John Henry Faulk: Hmm.

Mrs. Laura Smalley: You know to make her tend to the children, she wasn't doing nothing. Well she

wasn't a cripted [crippled] woman like me, you know. She wasn't an old cripted woman, satisfied she

wasn't an old cripted woman like me. And they'd whup her. And they had trays, I don't know where

you see a tray. Wooden tray. Dug out, you know, all about that, that long. And all of them you know

would get around that tray with spoons, and just eat. I can recollect that because I ate out the tray.

John Henry Faulk: Hmm.

Mrs. Laura Smalley: With spoons, you know, and eat, treat you like mush or soup or something like

that. But feed them, you know, before twelve o'clock. And all them children get around there and just

eat, eat, eat out that thing. And that old woman, you know, she would tend to them. Her name, Aunt

Tishe. Yeah, I know what happen to her. Old woman, name Aunt Tishe. And she—

John Henry Faulk: Just like slopping hogs wasn't it?

Mrs. Laura Smalley: It, Just like a tray, you know, just like a tray, you know, you have, it's made just like

a hog pit, a hog trough, you know.

 

 

AUDIO CLIP TWO

 

John Henry Faulk: Well, do you remember, remember any of the slaves being sold? Do you

remember any slave sellers, you know, men that would just buy and sell slaves?

Mrs. Laura Smalley: No, sir. I never did see it. Why I never, us children never did know that, you know.

We heard talk of it, but then I reckon that was after, after slavery I reckon. We heard talk of it. I used

to hear them talk about, you know, you putting them on stumps, you know. Or something high, you

know and bidding them off like you did cattle.

John Henry Faulk: Hmm.

Mrs. Laura Smalley: Bid them off like you did cattle.

John Henry Faulk: Well, none of your folks were ever sold then?

Mrs. Laura Smalley: No, sir. None of them never was sold.

Unidentified Woman Interviewer: You were born right there and never did leave? You were?

Mrs. Laura Smalley: Born right there and stayed there until I was about nine, ten years old, maybe

more. Stayed right there. We didn't know where to go.

Unidentified Woman Interviewer: Uhmm.

Mrs. Laura Smalley: Mama and them didn't know where to go, you see after freedom broke. Just

turned, just like you turn something out, you know. Didn't know where to go. That's just where they

stayed.

Unidentified Woman Interviewer: Uh huh. That's right.

Mrs. Laura Smalley: Hmm. Didn't know where to go. Turned us out just like, you know, you turn out

cattle. [

laugh

] I say. Didn't know where ta go.

 

 

AUDIO CLIP THREE

 

John Henry Faulk: You remember when the Civil War was being fought?

Mrs. Laura Smalley: Well, I, I can't remember much about it, but I remember this much: When uh, Mr.

Bethany, was gone a long time. Look like a long, long, time. And I remember all the next morning, it

when he, he got up. Now don't get, don't knock with that back there, Well, ah, he, he ah, we all got up

and all of them went to the house. Went to the house to see old master. And I thought old master

was dead, but he wasn't. He had been off to the war, and ah, come back. But then I didn't know, you

know, until the war. I just know he was gone a long time. All the niggas gathered around to see the

old master again. You know, and old master didn't tell you know, they was free.

John Henry Faulk: He didn't tell you that?

Mrs. Laura Smalley: Uh-uh. No he didn't tell. They worked there, I think now they say they worked

them, six months after that. Six months. And turn them loose on the nineteenth of June. That's why,

you know, we celebrate that day. Colored folks—celebrates that day.

 

 


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Trump on the Titanic

CAPTAIN TRUMP ON THE TITANIC

Rev. Stephen L. Fiske

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       Trump is like the captain of the Titanic and we are the passengers. The Titanic was the largest, most advanced and powerful ship of its time.  The captain was so filled with the hubris of its invincibility and so obsessed with its power that he set the ship at full throttle on its maiden voyage to break the cross-Atlantic speed record, despite the dangers of icebergs in its course through the North Atlantic.  He could not stop the huge boat in its accelerating momentum as the crew saw too late the danger in its path. When the boat hit the ice, the ship was not prepared to handle the catastrophe and prevent the disastrous loss of life that ensued.

The warning signs of the coronavirus were known in December, when Dr. Li Wenliang discovered the virus in his clinic in Wuhan City and issued a warning to colleagues. The Chinese authorities accused him of spreading rumors over the Internet and disturbing the social system in China. Dr. Li was forced to sign a government memo condemning him for illegal behavior and for spreading false information. He was arrested. The warnings were at first kept quiet by the Chinese who did not want the world to know of the disease. They thought they could keep it under control, but the attempt to suppress the whistleblower and the virus failed. The spread of the virus could not be contained, and the warning went out to the world.  The momentum of the contagion quickly got out of hand. Dr. Li himself was infected and died in the hospital on February 7, as the pandemic was spreading worldwide. 

Meanwhile, Trump ignored the warnings, scoffed at the science, and previously in 2018, had defunded and broken down the entire government pandemic response chain of command put in place by the Obama Administration precisely to monitor the warning signs, prepare for, and respond to such a pandemic. Now the Trump administration was completely unprepared. In his hubris and ignorance, the President insisted that the situation was under control, and that it was a Democratic “hoax.”  “The risk to Americans remains very low,” he proclaimed and further stated, “we’re very, very ready for this. It’s a little like the regular flu that we have shots for. And we’ll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner.”

His misleading remarks, lacking fact and empathy, brought public panic in the face of the reality, while businesses began to suffer, the virus spread, and the Stock Market plunged.  As the various world governments attempted a response without US leadership, the economies and health of the world began to sink like the Titanic. Now the pandemic continues to spread exponentially in the US and worldwide, and every day the death rate continues to rise as the news gets darker and darker.

How is it that the greatest and richest country in the world cannot provide enough personal protective gear for our nurses, doctors, and medical workers, who, at the front lines of this pandemic, are in danger of catching the virus and being immobilized themselves? Then who will take care of the tsunami of the sick with a shortage of health workers and hospital beds as has happened in Italy?  How is it that respirators, ventilators, and the all-important test kits are in very short supply or not available at all?  It sounds a lot like not enough lifeboats to save the panicking passengers from drowning in the icy waters, as the captain and crew scramble desperately for a way out of this, while the great ship goes down beneath them.

The crisis grew bigger than the President’s hubris.  He could no longer blame it on the Democrats, or Obama, or Hillary, or on the media and fake news.  His psyche needs a target to blame, however, to deflect attention from his own inadequacies. So he has called the disease “the China virus” invoking the vitriol of the Chinese and further condemnation for his blatant racism. His adversarial trade-war approach to dealing with China at a time we need all the data we can gather, all the help we can muster, is ill advised and self-defeating.

To his credit, he did begin to step aside and let the experts explain the depth and stark realities of the situation, and to mobilize the late starting but much-needed response. But bailouts are only a band aid in the holes of the hull. Now we must hope and pray that Trump’s response will slow the pandemic and eventually ease the arc of the disease.  And we must all do our share to support the effort. But there is another danger lurking in this crisis.

In the mobilization to combat the pandemic, the president has now declared himself “a war-time president” and has invoked The Defense Production Act. Through this wartime act, the president is directing private industries to manufacture the urgently needed medical equipment along with the protective gear, at a hyper-production pace. While meeting this imperative, he has mobilized the National Guard and is engaging the Army Corps of Engineers. These may be effective and necessary steps, but also portend to inevitable enforcement of Martial Law.  This can fit directly into the president’s continual quest to consolidate his power, to assume dictatorship, and further the demise of democracy. Under Martial law, should it be enacted and continue into November (God forbid), while we are all sheltered in place for the good of our own health, it would not be surprising to see the president attempt to postpone or cancel the election and try to continue in power, emulating his role model, Vladimir Putin.

      But there is another alternative to this speculation. Unlike the Titanic, we are not doomed. As we are now all forced to partake in the social distancing and containment directives brought upon societies worldwide, we have the opportunity to pause from the acceleration of these drastic measures in this drastic time.  We can reflect and reconsider who we are and how we function together in our nation and on this planet.  We can mobilize our collective activism to defeat this disease, and, absent from marching in the streets and meeting in person, mobilize online to defeat the madness of this presidency.   

       We are the receivers of a most serious ongoing warning that transcends boundaries, cultures, nations, races, and politics.  As we come together now and take the steps of battling this coronavirus, and as we hunker down in our own domains, let us see this as a chance to reverse direction and change course. Although we will bear the weight of increased suffering and loss, of economic hardship, especially those of us towards the bottom of the food chain, and face the haunting uncertainties of the daily developments, the virus is uniting the planet in the collective activism of the global community to save ourselves.  We will get through this.

       While the Coronavirus may well have derived from animals openly slaughtered, cleaned, and sold in the “wet market” of Wuhan, seemingly removed and far away deep within the culture and boundaries of China, it is symptomatic of a deeper disease we are called to recognize –  blindness to the truth of our global interconnectedness and interdependence. The Coronavirus might have been contained, if the whistle blower had been heeded at first, if the warning had been put out sooner, and the proper preventative steps had immediately been taken, both in China and here.  We are suffering the consequences of that blindness.  Now we see that we are all in this together as a global people and can only solve it through global recognition, collaboration, and cooperation.  For the first time in history, the will of the whole world is being forced to come together to pool our scientific, economic, environmental, social, and political resources to face the dilemma of our collective disease.  

           We must use this crisis to amend our ways, heal, recover, learn from, and see beyond this pandemic. As we go forward into the future, this disease-catalyzed collaboration and cooperation must now become the health-induced new norm for our planetary survival on all levels of societal endeavor.  The world as we have known it has stopped, and we can use this crisis to restart our engines based on a rebuild and overhaul of all parts.

          We can no longer be warring and embattled nations, tribes, religions, and factions built around the old model of walls of separation, exclusivity, of domination. colonization, and imperialism, of racism and sexism, of tribalism, enmity, and the divisive battling of competitive wills.  We can no longer be debt slaves to the worldwide war economy and banking system which create economic disparity and injustices, and which support an adversarial, violent, weapons-based international culture that breeds contempt, mistrust, and the insanity of nuclear madness. None of this is healthy, nor sustainable.

          We can no longer treat our planet as an endless resource pool to plunder and desecrate, and as a garbage dump for our toxic waste, enabling the collapse of nature’s biodiversity. We can no longer deny the existential threat of the climate crisis. We must make the same unified global effort as in our battle with the pandemic, by being Earth Stewards, mobilized towards eco-justice, conversion to renewables, and to sustainability, now before it is too late.  We can no longer be drugged and mesmerized by the material values of monied interests concerned more with greed and profit than with people’s real needs and rights.  All of us on this planet are inextricably intertwined, and we can no longer ignore the interdependent health concerns and wellbeing of the planetary population.

          The current captain of the vessel of the most powerful nation in the world, Donald Trump, seems only concerned with his ego, wealth, and the public perception of him as a great king. He acquired the helm through the antiquated dysfunction of the electoral college system, with help from Russian interference, despite losing the popular vote by over 3 million. It is this current captain who espouses ultra-right wing nationalism, is disparaging to our allies, is a white supremist, denies science, is preoccupied with his wall, is a womanizer, violates the Constitution, and hob-nobs with dictators and despots while giving tax-cuts to the ultra-rich, furthering the demise of democracy into a corporatocracy.  It is the current captain who denies climate change, withdraws from the Paris Accords, and does all he can to support the fossil fuel industry while desecrating the environment.  It is the current captain at the helm who denies responsibility for his blindness to the danger that was fast approaching and for the stunning lack of preparedness for the calamity now taking place. The list of his corruptions, lies, and crimes is only exceeded by his total ineptness to meet the challenge of the Coronavirus pandemic.

      We must see this as a time of extraordinary and challenging transition, of healing and rethinking, of embracing a new paradigm where interdependence, cooperation, honest dialogue, respect across differences, peaceful co-existence, non-violence, and earth stewardship are the pillars of a new global identity.  We must embrace change and delete what no longer serves us.  We must pray for our President, our nation, and the world. We are all travelers together on this spaceship Earth, spinning through space in a fragile life-support bubble like an orbiting incubator. Now is the time to wake up, heal, regroup, and learn how to keep the life-support systems on board afloat, operational, and healthy.

We must pray, but we must also act. We can no longer allow ourselves to be victims of suicidal policies led by a madman at the helm of an inherited system that is broken. We are better than that. We need to see that we are not this disease, we are not this dysfunction. We are divine beings born here to share this world in peace with each other, to embrace our journey towards health and wholeness of body, mind and spirit, and to grow and to blossom “endowed with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

Unlike the passengers on the Titanic, as we get through this crisis, we have the opportunity to mobilize our activism, to correct our course, and to continue that pursuit across the ocean of our challenges, towards a new future with a new captain and crew at the helm, come November.

 

 


Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow: A Reflection on Making History

The Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. said: “We are now faced with the fact that tomorrow is today. We are confronted with the fierce urgency of now. In this unfolding conundrum of life and history, there 'is' such a thing as being too late. This is no time for apathy or complacency. This is a time for vigorous and positive action.”

William Faulkner said: “The past is never dead. It's not even past.”

John Connor in the Terminator movies said:  “The future is not set. There is no fate, but what we make for ourselves.”

The Buddha said: “The past is already gone, the future is not yet here. There's only one moment for you to live, and that is the present moment.”

Fidel Castro, facing imprisonment for attempting to overthrow the Battista dictatorship in Cuba, said: "History will absolve me," meaning that in the future that was yet to be written, justice and liberation would triumph.

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Scholarship Thank You Letter

My name is Miriam Perez and I am writing to thank you for sponsoring me as a Peace Kids Youth Intern. I am currently in 11th grade at Robert F. Kennedy Community Schools SVAH, class of 2020. Upon graduation, I hope to attend a four year university in order to pursue my dream job of becoming a graphic novel illustrator and author. Having this career will allow me to share different thoughts and ideas I have so that hopefully others can learn something from them.

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Not One Emmy for Ken Burns

A Victory for Historical Accuracy and the Peace Movement: Not One Emmy for Ken Burns and “The Vietnam War" 

Originally published in CounterPunch

Ken Burns, branded as “America’s Storyteller,” was shut out at the Creative Arts Emmy Awards ceremony on Sunday, September 9. (The “primetime,” higher-profile Emmys were awarded later, on September 17.) Burns’s latest project, the mammoth PBS series, “The Vietnam War,” was nominated for Emmys in four categories. One by one, through the evening, all four prizes were awarded to other nominees.

It was a surprising conclusion to Burns’s quest for recognition, and canonization, of a project that cost $30 million dollars, and which spanned 10 evenings on PBS, totalling 18 hours of viewing time. (Burns and his associates and PBS had already failed to receive a Peabody nomination in April.)

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From 0 to 60 in the Blink of an Eye

 

 

 

 

Life is a remarkable thing.

The next time ICUJP meets, I shall have turned 60. I find the thought of it extremely perplexing. It is only a little time ago that I remember my 6 th birthday with almost as much clarity and with a similar perplexity. What, I wondered, was so special about this day, and why was I receiving a new toy?

To me, now, as I contemplate all this, the experience is not just remarkable but equally it is beautiful. If there is any major difference between my 6th and 60 th birthdays it is, perhaps, that I am beginning to understand this mystery of life, if only by the minutest of fractions.

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Banning Future Speech in an Unlawful Prior Restraint

At a time when freedom of speech and the right to protest are under unrelenting attack by the President of the United States, the last thing we need is for the Los Angeles City Council to adopt an unprecedented prior restraint banning outspoken critics from attending future meetings.
Under the proposed ordinance, anyone who "disrupts" and is removed from two Council or committee meetings within three days can be "excluded from attending" all Council and committee meetings for the following three business days.  And if the individual "disrupts" another meeting within three days, they can be excluded from all City meetings for the following six business days.  These persons would be banned from attending all City meetings of any kind, listening to the proceedings and speaking during the public comment periods, even if they did so peaceably and without disruption. Without a trial or any judicial review, regardless of any past violations, it would impose an unlawful gag order denying in advance their constitutional rights to freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and the right to petition their government for redress of grievances
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A Reflection on my Moral and Spiritual Life

I want to talk about the importance and meaning of reflection to ethical living. Think about the basic meaning of a reflection. Consider what you see when you look at a reflection -- what Michael Jackson referred to as "The Man in the Mirror." The first and most important figure to whom we must apply a spiritual vision and a moral interrogation is ourselves. To me, some of the most vital moral and spiritual work we can do is in self-examination and self-criticism, identifying, learning from and overcoming our own transgressions, weaknesses and failures.

I was raised Orthodox Jewish in an immigrant working class family in Brooklyn. My father came to the US from Poland as a teenager in the early 1930s. My parents met on a picket line when my mother was fired for joining a union. I lived a very sheltered life in a small apartment in a large apartment house, walking distance from my yeshiva elementary school and from the two synagogues that we prayed at. I spent six days a week in yeshiva starting when I was about 4-1/2, all the way through high school, and Friday nights and Saturdays at the synagogue from as early as I can remember. I learned to read Hebrew pretty much simultaneously with English, and spent half of every school day studying Torah and the prophets, and later the Talmud in yeshiva high school.

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Impunity, Parallelity, and Nonviolence

I don’t know if any of you knew my adopted mom, the legendary Esther. If not, maybe you remember my giving a reflection about her just before she died at ninety-five. Esther, who grew up hearing how her mother, as a child, saw her little brother bayoneted by one of the Czar’s soldiers for being Jewish and out after their curfew, Esther who spoke Yiddish as a first language, Esther who became a Communist at fourteen and never quit the struggle while she had any energy in her left in her to give, Esther who refused to wear a Star of David because it is on the Israeli flag, but when her friend gave her a silver chain with a little chai on it, she never removed it from around her neck. Never. My friend, my next-door neighbor, my adopted mom, Esther.

I remember one day she and I were talking and the conversation turned to the Israeli treatment of Palestinians. It was with deep pain that she expressed to me that she couldn’t understand how Jews could treat anyone like this after all they have suffered themselves.

My only answer I could come up for her was of impunity.

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